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Old 25-08-2013, 09:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Speaking to Drew today regarding showers and koi growth, he seemed to think that if you don't change at least 30% water per week koi growth could suffer,and being on a water meter I doubt I change quite as much as this,he seemed to think the way forward is a shower like the one he has designed, helping reduce proteins,nitrates and very fine particles keeping the water fresher for longer, what are your views on this?

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Hi everyone,
Speaking to Drew today regarding showers and koi growth, he seemed to think that if you don't change at least 30% water per week koi growth could suffer,and being on a water meter I doubt I change quite as much as this,he seemed to think the way forward is a shower like the one he has designed, helping reduce proteins,nitrates and very fine particles keeping the water fresher for longer, what are your views on this?

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Hes a good salesman and saw you coming.

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I'm starting to think that Dave,
Not just him but all these dealers!! I'm always left confused I see Mike selling koi 35cm yesterday starting at 1450 and I want to see something in that koi to justify the price tag but I struggle to see it!! am I blind to such amazing koi, or right in thinking they are totally over priced for what they are???

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I'm starting to think that Dave,
Not just him but all these dealers!! I'm always left confused I see Mike selling koi 35cm yesterday starting at 1450 and I want to see something in that koi to justify the price tag but I struggle to see it!! am I blind to such amazing koi, or right in thinking they are totally over priced for what they are???

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Not just him but all these dealers!! I'm always left confused I see Mike selling koi 35cm yesterday starting at 1450 and I want to see something in that koi to justify the price tag but I struggle to see it!! am I blind to such amazing koi, or right in thinking they are totally over priced for what they are???

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My advice would be if you can't tell the difference don't worry about it. It's your money and your fish. If you'd be equally as happy with a cheaper one from another dealer that's fine.

Having said that I think my next purchase will be from Mike though. I've compared similar priced fish from him and other dealers and they seem good value to me. In as much as they tick more boxes and likely have more chance of going jumbo. I'm planning on stocking low so would rather spend the cash one fish that I will enjoy for years to come.

Having said that I don't think I'd spend more than 600-800. Check out his website there's plenty of fish that are affordable to use mere mortals

Edit: I agree with the shower comments. Don't see how recycling water is going to supplement new water. I thought the whole idea of adding fresh water is to replace nutrients and to flush toxins away. Everyone I know who use showers still add fresh water.
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So say for instants you buy a Yumi koi, at 35cm good bloodline and ticks all the boxes,would it reach its full potential ,in a pond not heated,not running bakki showers, or drum filters,not with fresh water drip feeding in 24hrs per day,and not turning over huge amounts of water per hour?
Sorry for all the questions,but before I go down the route of paying so much for such a small koi with so much potential, I don't want to have the dealer tell me 3 yrs down the line, well it would have reached its full potential if you had a pond set up like with what I have written above!

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